Town Centre Regeneration

by Irvin Clifford

On Wednesday 15th September there will be an exhibition and consultation in the Walker Hall for the proposed regeneration plans for Kilbirnie town centre from NAC which will start next year the exhibition/consultation will take place between 12 noon and 3pm on the 15th September please attend and make suggestions for what you feel the town centre needs...


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jj brown says

well before the town gets regenerated surely we need to sort out the attitude to school kids and the way they treat it.

We must be the only place in the country were the school kids can through all there rubbish everywere everyday and not give a hoot.

Theyve got a street cleaner running around picking everything up after them.Think before we regenerate i think we should re educate them and learn them how to appreciate our town.

Its the local Police who should be prosecuting them everyday for littering our town they respect nothing .

Sorry but i think we need to start sorting out the daily mess before anything

Gordy S says

I won't be able to attend that meeting , is there any chance of an outline of the plans being posted on this site ?.

My own thoughts are that the volume of traffic running through main street and along Holmhead etc has become unnaceptable . I've seen a big increase in traffic after Tescos opening for instance . It just takes one or two cars to be parked anywhere along that route for it to end up in gridlock ... , not to mention the hideously small pavement at the chemists side . A bit dangerous when you're dragging the kids along it and a 30 ton artic goes past .

A one way system for main street and parking on one side of the road would be good . A road going over the field on the left as you enter Kilbirnie from Lochwinnoch could also be linked with the Industrial estate , coming out uphill from the entrance to the rugby pitches at Lochend .OK , it might not save a lot of traffic , but this is maybe the kind of thinking we need to get some of the through traffic away from Main street .

jeeni bee says

I totally agree, the kids need re-educated and I think we should start by making sure the ones that caught dropping litter get sent on national service or put to work cleaning chimneys.  There just werent the same littering problems when children were busy doing some healthy child labouring jobs such as shoe polishing, chimney cleaning, or tattie picking, they simply didnt have the energy of  time to queue at Bennys for a pizza crunch.  Perhaps this is the kind of suggestion the community council could take forward?

Irvin Clifford says

Nice Jenni good suggestions and I totally agree with you....,anyway the community council invited the current headmaster of Garnock Academy to attend a meeting with us last year to discuss this very issue and his reponse was that no children leave the school at break times and that "his" pupils were not the ones responsible for the litter being dropped it was just coincidence that the litter was there when his pupils were in the street,so that is the kind of non sensical mindset we are up against,as for NAC actively prosecuting litter droppers well wont hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Gordy s the plans which will be on show will be proposals it needs those of us who can to attend and make suggestions for our ideas of a better and cleaner main street will post what I can on here.

One way systems have been proposed in the past and ignored or ridiculed,agree with you about the traffic in main street and Holmhead something does have to be done sooner rather than later will bring it up at the next CC meeting

jj brown says

Irvine we dont need the head of the school to come down to look at what the kids are dropping. Nothing to do with him why should we have a street sweeper standing there every lunchtime waiting to clear there mess up and North Ayrshire Council should be made do something about it .Its unacceptable why can,t you see that we dont deserve a town regeneration could look after it

jeeni bee says

Its truly heart-warming to see such support for the re-introduction of child labour.  However, I wondered if Kilbirnie could independantly revoke its support of the United Nations Convention of the Rights of the Child to be able to re-educate the attitudes of these kids without fear of criminal charges - perhaps the cane, birching and borstal could then be considered as well as child labour. 

I would also suggest that local pensioners could be kept busy as vigilantes,  manning spy cams and going undercover  at Bennys on lunchtime, this would save the queues at the unmanned check-outs at Tesco and in the Post Office, and the bank - all in all, a win win situation for the whole community - Hurrah!!!

Irvin Clifford says

firstly JJBrown dont really understand the last part of your posting and why dont we need the headmaster of garnock being made aware of the mess his pupils are making and secondly how do you force any orginisation to actively harass and prosecute any one if they decide not to???

Irvin Clifford says

I attended the "drop in" meeting at the Walker Hall today to see the plans and make suggestions for the proposed town centre regeneration plans from NAC.

I arrived at the hall at 12.15 and there were no signs of life at all,no signage telling you about the meeting or anything in fact,you would never have known that any meeting was supposedly taking place.

I met a member of the community council who has mobility problems to be told by her that the hall keeped had in fact moved the meeting upstairs to the board room where she could not gain access too due to the stairs being unsuitable for her mobility problem,so that was the first really clever thing that an NAC employee did.

He had effectively barred anyone with mobility issues from the meeting,that was good of him wasn't it????

He laid out tables and chairs in the big hall when this problem was raised but he was pretty surly about it,pity the people of Kilbirnie interfered with his leisure time,sorry work time....

Then we received the second bit of really good news,the meeting was not for the viewing of plans nor the provison of suggestions from the public,it was for shop owners only to discuss their interest in the shop front renovation scheme as done in Dalry.

More and more people were arriving to see the plans etc only to be told by the poor lady from NAC that the publicised meeting was not in fact what was publicised it was for shop keepers only.

Now I placed the details here on the s1 site from the information that I received from the letter sent to the community council which clearly states that this was a drop in meeting to discuss town centre regeneration issues and to take suggestions from the public

Well it was none of these things yet again it was yet another NAC total mess a situation where one corporate hand was not talking to the other,one department not being able to put in plain english what was happening in a specific venue on a specific date,typical NAC ineptitude.

You would think with the accesibility of all the forms of communication we now have that it would be so easy to keep everyone up to date and well informed with whats going on,but no not NAC they cannot seem to communicate effectively with their own departments never mind the public,NAC your a joke,how hard it is to tell people what is going on,I have no doubt that NAC will put it down to miscommunication or some sort of mistake and generally pass the buck,but as a Kilbirnie resident and community councillor it is just so symptomatic of the way NAC deals with Kilbirnie issues,numpties utter numpties.

Oh and we now have our cctv cameras installed no bad only been waiting since November of last year.

So I have no plans or information as the meeting did not happen...

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